Global Warming!!
Being interested myself in the phenomena of Global Warming, and witnessed a dry summer, last summer in UK where some laws were issued against use of water for irrigating backyard gardens or washing cars, and one of the most rainy summers in the Netherlands (recorded highest in last 60 years), or experiencing the first snow in Cairo around 3 years ago, and a rainy "winter" in Dubai, or people who cancelled their holidays in Alps because of no snow for skiing; meaning weather is going abnormal everywhere in the world, and having media going on "the flow of creating immaginery issues for commercial reasons" and dealing with the issue on Wag-the-dog style BUT there is no single research has proven that this phenomena is a result of a human wrong-doings or pollution resulting from some industries, so for the people who are accusing US or western countries for not caring about environment, blame mother-nature for it!!
and for people who watched The day after tomorrow and got scared, cheer up and do not believe in media-created, what so called Exaggerated Science!!
and for people who watched The day after tomorrow and got scared, cheer up and do not believe in media-created, what so called Exaggerated Science!!
posted by Aly at 2:03 PM
21 Comments:
Couldn't agree more.
4:16 PM
Actually, there's LOADS of evidence! Have you seen An Inconvenient Truth yet? If not, I HIGHLY recommend it. It definitely made me a believer!
I've actually just been hired by Virgin Mobile USA to help get the company CARBON NEUTRAL this year! Pretty exciting stuff! Just imagine the environmental impact if more big corporations were to follow Virgin Mobile's example and get their house cleaned up!
A question for other Green Nomaders out there...does anyone have recommendations for trusted websites that offer reliable facts about the impact of recycling cans, bottles, and paper in the office place? I've checked out several (treehugger.com, morehipthanhippy.com, etc), but many of them either don't have facts about recyling listed or have ones that are a bit dry. Any ideas are much appreciated!
5:31 PM
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6:02 PM
Great!! congrats for the job :) and I fully agree and believe that it's awesome to have companies with GREEN campaigns, except that all that has nothing to do with Global Warming, beside that I don't get facts or historical events out of movies or NEWS.....if you want to know why so, I would send you one documentary that would keep your trustability of media minimal.
6:04 PM
weather |= climate
-> weather change |= climate change
7:06 PM
Firstly JILLO congrats on the job nice one! Hope your doing well!
As for the rest of the conversation whilst climate change is the result of many different factors human activity as a whole is definitely impacting the process, and I take this from a science point of view having spent years studying it, I can refer you to hundreds of credible articles from scientifically proven sources not movies or news (these sources are saved for the masses who do not have the luxury of studying the subject intensively). The media! there just catching up and scaremongering people into action the only way they know how.
9:47 PM
Read Nicholas Stern's Review on the Economics of Climate Change.
If you can't chew through the 700 pages of analysis and references, don't despair, there is a 27 page executive summary. :)
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/independent_reviews/stern_review_economics_climate_change/sternreview_index.cfm
4:59 AM
The link isn't appearing properly, so here's the Wikipedia entry..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_global_warming
The Report is available as the last entry in the "External Links" section.
5:02 AM
so am I to believe now that Al Gore's efforts are all an intricately designed presidential election tactic? :)
5:20 AM
Sorry for the third posting in a row... but I thought it would be an interesting anecdote.
I was in Siberia until a few days ago. The weather this year was a bit abnormal. After a very heavy initial snow and a full migration of birds, the temperature actually swung back over Zero and everything defrosted. Even the birds came back for a while! The grandmother in the family I was staying in said this was the warmest winter she'd ever been in. (She's 77 years old).
My flight back to Delhi was kept in the air because fog had reduced visibility on the runway. A Indian (an expat) sitting next to me remarked that he never remembered the fog being so bad when he was last in Delhi in the sixties.
Climate/ Weather/ Temperature or whatever the hell you want to call it has been warming rapidly - and more wildly than ever before.
Whether human caused or not, if we can do something to soften the blow on our economies which are so precious to us, than lets do it in the name of capitalism if not environmentalism.
5:36 AM
This is a classic example of idiotical thinking: There's no scientifical proof that what we do has deadly consequences (or we just simply don't want to see it), so in the name of convenience and profit (and laziness to use our brain) we decide to stick with the same old habits - (which we know are harmful in one or another way anyways).
10:51 AM
It was snowing on Christmas Day in an Australian summer (in parts of the country). Bahrain is having its coldest winter in living memory (down to 7 degrees!)... yes, an Inconvenient Truth definately has me thinking
11:21 AM
The incovenient truth is an incovinient movie.
Know why?
It's complete bollocks.
Enviromentalism is only used by governments (and presidential hopefull such as Gore) to make themselves look "caring, sharing" and all that other nonsense.
These is no proof. Simple as that.
Quote from a friend of mine :'
"The latest value for the overall warming trend that's widely accepted is +0.123 deg C / decade (Christy) which is so underwhelming and well within natural limits that global warming True Believers have been forced to stage PR stunts near glaciers."
Oh, and check here. Oil is not going run out for.......
at least 150 years!
http://www.runet.edu/~wkovarik/oil/index2.html
1:37 PM
Thanks Niek for sharing the convenient truth that results in Inconvenient shock for movies-addicts!!
Just to clarify the point, I'm not saying that due to such FACTS (not movies), we should neglect the environment and get ourselves laid-back, BUT we shouldn't get ourselves into the LEMMINGS-ising mood and yell-back after Mr. Al Gore, or whoever who's using whatever motto for their whatever campaign for whatever reasons, before we actually think twice about it and do some research.
1:54 PM
gosh Niek your so right. 150 years is a long time and by then we won't be alive so why care. Never mind that our future generations will have to deal with a world where oil is a luxury item only an elite few can afford, where polar ice caps are melting only to send half a dozen or more coastal cities under water thus displacing millions of lives, or the fact that natural ecosystems everywhere will be seriously affected (already happening) by rising CO2 levels. Environmentalists obviously don't have anything better to do than scare us folks who just want to live for the present and couldn't care for the future. When will they learn.
2:02 PM
"Environmentalists obviously don't have anything better to do than scare us folks who just want to live for the present and couldn't care for the future."
Funny sarcastic tone. And showing excavtly why the "green" organisations are working in such a flawed manner.
You gave (anonymously) a reply. Containing no facts and trying to make fun of me. If that is the best you can do you should....
run for public office actually!
But I digress.
I just see hard-core environmentalists as believers.
They truly believe in something and nothing else can ever (EVER) be possible/true/whatever.
This is the same if you are a eligious extremist. Discussion is not an option, and the whole world needs to be brought around to your point of view... or else.
Now: if they could have good ideas on how to make the world better, and be open to discussion and actually LISTEN to other people, then they wouldn't annoy me so much.
I've met some people like this, luckily, so I'm not giving up on you Greenpeace lovers yet! ;-)
2:17 PM
Niek it's fairly presumptious of you to dismiss analysis on data that has been collected since the middle of the 19th century (and of evidence available since the last ice-age through ice-core samples!).
But if you're looking for scientific evidence...
CNN's story on the Ayles Ice-shelf that broke off:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/12/29/canada.arctic.ap/index.html
The last glacial period ended 10,000 years ago. But in the last 100 years alone, Canada has lost nearly 90% of its ice-shelf.
Again, whether human caused or not, the planet is warming up and big choices are necessary if we're going to see any progress with this.
P.s. - it's not just Al Gore who's got on the Green Machine... Britain's Conservative Party too has decided to make Climate Change a big priority in the next elections.
http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do?def=news.story.page&obj_id=133536
6:12 PM
"Climate Change 2001: The Scientific Basis is the most comprehensive and up-to-date scientific assessment of past, present and future climate change. The report:
* Analyses an enormous body of observations of all parts of the climate system.
* Catalogues increasing concentrations of atmospheric greenhouse gases.
* Assesses our understanding of the processes and feedbacks which govern the climate system.
* Projects scenarios of future climate change using a wide range of models of future emissions of greenhouse gases and aerosols.
* Makes a detailed study of whether a human influence on climate can be identified.
* Suggests gaps in information and understanding that remain in our knowledge of climate change and how these might be addressed.
http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm
7:13 PM
I found this link about greenhouse effects...
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2005/changing.earth/interactive/global.warming/frameset.exclude.html
10:37 AM
The whole thing is a bit woolybooly for me... Wasn't 2006 supposed to be the worst US hurricane season ever due to global warming?.. It was hardly even newsworthy this year.
The whole global climate picture is too complex to predict at this point. Especially if you're going to boil it down to idiot level news reporting and movie making.
Didn't we go through this about 10 years ago with the whole 'el nino' weather thing?.. MUST be global warming.
Gasp! The number of tornados in the US has risen steadily in the last 30 years. Well yes, but we've also gotten a Lot better at detecting them. MUST be global warming.
The phrase means nearly nothing, or rather... 'abnormal' local weather. A 100 year flood is not global warming. It's just the biggest flood in a hundred years, it's happened before, and will happen again. But man... watch out for the 500 year flood. It's a doozy!
To me, the cry of global warming has become a populist cry of "that's weird weather" and not associated with climate. It's also the rallying cry used by some scientists to get more funding during those times. You think they didn't capitalize after Katrina?..
Anyway, another ice age will come, the sun will burn out and life on earth with cease. Whether we're accelerating the process or not... it's gonna happen.
Jill, good luck on helping your company get carbon neutral. It certainly can't hurt things. And pollution sucks in general.
10:14 PM
"last ice-age"
Pierre :
That is the problem: We're still in one. The earth is warming up (very) slowly because the *mini* ice-age we've lived in since the 1600s is drawing to a clos.
Like I said : natural (and very slow) process. Not human inteference.
And BTW: the conservatives are just as bent as Al Gore. They want/need/will do anything for those heavy-conscience votes. Shame to see actually.
8:23 AM
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